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2 pieces shock rods for the Phoenix hp22 hp22a hp25a


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4.8 x 5mm  bi-rod (2pcs) Rods may come tapered or normal cylinder shape.
 

 color: brown-black

shape: tapered or cylinder.

for rapid fire

 

 

$7.50   UNAVAILABLEy other sellers


combined shipping $2.50

Just install one here.


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Kit contents:

                                              

These rods install right into the front end of the slide where the recoil spring rest.  It does all the work between the recoil spring and the stop post. They'll allow the slide to lock back manually. Just pull the slide back and the brown rod will compress slowly (like a marshmallow, about a fraction of a second) then you're able to lock the slide back. It won't affect the normal cycling of a round.

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5 x 4mm black firm and soft brown rod sandwich in one unit. These rods feature the best shock absorption and the best frame protection. They allow an unlimited continuous fire. The black firm shock absorbing portion are known to last particularly very long. It's made from a high compression strength proprietary material for durability. Softer, yet firm, brown rods are known to offer the best protection from stress cracks because of it marshmallow-like properties. Women may like them too since it adds a little comfort to the recoil.


 




Questions and answers about this item
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Why is this called a guide rod?

Previously we sold firm buffer rods. Firm rods works like a guide rod. Once correctly installed, they help guide the spring during a shot so the spring doesn't pop out of alignment and keep the spring from flying out during field stripping (works on firm rod only, not available with this kit, maybe we'll bring it back in the future). But it's not for everyone. For those of you that have the patience and the know-how to install the firm rods like a guide rod can easily turn them into a guide rod. See "Does these rods keep the spring from popping out?" below.  

 

What is a severe lockup?

Severe lockup is when the spring pop out of alignment, falls out of its track and seizes the slide. You can't pull the slide back. You can't pull the slide forward. You can't field strip. Essentially, you're stuck. You might need professional help by this time. 

It will appear impossible to budge the take down lever while the slide moves freely back and forth. This is what could happen if the spring falls out of its track and nose-dive, jamming the slide. Here is one unfortunate example of a person with that symptom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXKvMoqLGdA.

 

What happens when the striker pin block safety loosens up?

A loose, flimsy striker pin block, which can wear out even faster by shock, may engage during a shot and it won't fire. A tried and true tap-n-rack trick isn't going to help. If your life counts on it, you might want to get your block spring fixed.

 

Does my hp22a have a history of frame cracks?

Yes. Even newer ones they ship out to replace the one you've sent in for a crack frame may even crack again.  Some even say they have never used hyper velocity rounds. Here are a few images of the crack frames. http://phoenixparts.mypressonline.com/crackframe.html



Why are they still shipping these out?


Because changing out a $200,000 - $500,000 zinc injection mold isn't economical. It's cheaper to replace the frame you've sent in. 




Can you explain how or why they crack?


Cracks are caused by microfractures, which typically form during casting. They are invisible to the naked eye. Aviation parts manufacturers use expensive instruments to weed out parts that have microfractures. But the low cost Hp22 don't have that luxury. You'll have to count on your luck to get a good frame. Microfractures expand when exposed to shock, vibrations, flexing or drastic changes in temperatures. 

 

Does this stuff works to stop cracks?

Shock absorbing bushings have been used in virtually every product where cracks can become a hazard, except in a Phoenix, where it desperately needs one. They absorb and contain most of the sharp and dangerous concussions. It's common knowledge.

 

Does this stuff works to prevent slide cracks?

These rods should help reduce a slide crack a bit, but they're not design for stopping a slide crack. The newer slides are said to have fix this problem. But don't use high velocity rounds, since the exertion from these brass casings could cause the slide to crack, cause the frame to pucker or the hammer to split. 

 

Will it work on any spring?

Yes. The rods will fit new production and older production springs. Be careful, a brand new spring can cause the rod to pop out or go into a mangled twist during a take-down since this kit doesn't come with a take down tool.* We ran out of the take down tool. This is an example of a takedown tool. http://www.ephotobay.com/image/takedowntool01.jpg it helps keep your spring nice and neat.

What kind of materials are the bushings?

They are shock absorbing rubber and firm rubber foam. The rubber has a consistency of an automotive rubber bushing but with a slow crush speed. The firm rubber foam has a consistency of a foam mat but they crush slowly and return to its shape slowly.

 

How easy is it to install this shock rod in there?

Pretty easy. Installs just like you would install a spring, except with a slight difference. http://www.ephotobay.com/image/helptext.jpg



Do these rods keep the spring from popping out?

They don't keep the spring from popping out during field stripping because this is a soft rod. We may sell a firm rod in the future which can keep the spring from popping out. With a firm rod and after the spring breaks-in in the future, you may be able to put a dab of super glue on the firm rod end of the disc and this may stop the spring from flying out.

 

Why can't I push the take down lever with my fingers or anything? Takedown lever stuck.

1) The barrel and the take down lever hasn't been broken-in yet. 

2) The take down lever on both sides has to be push at the exactly the same time and parallel to the barrel (another words, don't let the take down lever skew as you push them forward. )

3) the barrel may have to be pushed down before the take down lever will move.

4) Severe lock-up has occurred. See FAQ: "Take down lever stuck. How do I remove the slide when the slide is severely locked up (a.k.a. severe lockup)? "

5) After the rod/pad is installed, you won't be able to pull or push onto the take down lever after the slide locks back. See note below.

Notice that after installing the rod/pad, you can't remove the barrel after locking the slide back. Neither will you be able install the barrel after locking the slide back your usual way. To install a barrel after the slide has locked back you should push the slide back then disengage the safety at the same time when snapping the barrel into place. Another words, push on the slide, disengage the safety then snap the barrel in at the same time quickly.

How to take down after the rod is installed. See sentence 2 and 3 above. Then continue to remove the barrel.

 


Figure 6: Plug the rod into the stop post, remove the release liner then lock the slide back. Remove the cup then reassemble. See the included instruction manual for details. 

 

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installation guide:

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  CAUTION: Unload your magazine. Engage the firing pin block safety.

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SHIPPING: paid on Friday, Sat - Sun ships Monday. Combine shipping.
RETURNS: Please contact seller for returns/exchange.  Buyer pays return shipping.



MSC INFO:  If you're not satisfied, you can return the item
for a different item (firm rod, shorter soft rods) or for a full refund within 
14 days. If you're a female with weak fingers and bought one of our LRHO kits this is not for you since it may require a little strength to lock the slide back manually. But if you like to buy it anyway, we recommend snipping your safety just like the so many videos on Youtube is showing you. This makes it work so well with the buffer cushion.



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